VATICAN COUNCIL II INDICATES MOHAMMAD IS LOST : 60 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ( UPDATED)
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VATICAN COUNCIL II INDICATES MOHAMMAD IS LOST : 60 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ( UPDATED)
1. What is the discovery?
The discovery is that Vatican Council II is ecclesiocentric and has a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Council of Florence 1442), the Athanasius Creed and the rest of Tradition. There is continuity with all the catechisms on outside the Church there is no salvation.
2. Could you be specific?
Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All. AG 7 is included in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the title Outside the Church No Salvation (846). Meanwhile LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to invisible cases in 2025. They are always hypothetical.
So they are not objective examples of salvation in the present times. They are not explicit exceptions for AG 7 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
This is the discovery. LG 16 refers to an invisible case. An …More
I am affirming the dogma EENS of the Church Councils of the Catholic Church. They did not project hypothetical and theoretical cases as practical exceptions for the dogma EENS as you are doing. I am following Vatican Council II. It says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All- includes the people in Africa. When St. Francis Xavier went to Goa, he knew that all the natives there needed Catholic faith and the baptism of water for salvation from Hell. All. He did not think there were any exceptions. How could he know of any any exceptions?. If someone is saved without the baptism of water it could only be known to God. The Bible, Tradition and the popes over the ages and now Vatican Council II tell us that the norm for salvation is the baptism of water ( CCC 1257). The Catechism of the Catholic Church says that the Church knows of no means of eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water.
EENS is false because there are many infants in Africa born with severe defects and only live a short time. When they die, they are welcome into heaven.
I hope so. But in general only Catholics go to Heaven. In Heaven there are only Catholics.If there is an exception, to the rule which God chose to make, it would only be known to God.
@Lionel Leslie Andrades...My first example stands true plus there is another example. A person is burned to death while running into burning building to save a baby trapped inside. This complies with Jesus truth who said "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13.
My two examples must be true otherwise they go to Hell.
These are hypothetical cases. The norm for salvation is faith and baptism. The norm is the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Your two examples, are theoretical. They exist in your mind. They are not objective exceptions for the norm, for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
@Lionel Leslie Andrades... Sorry but you have avoided the issue and disclosed that your position is ungodly.
I am affirming the dogma EENS of the Church Councils of the Catholic Church. They did not project hypothetical and theoretical cases as practical exceptions for the dogma EENS as you are doing. I am following Vatican Council II. It says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All- includes the people in Africa. When St. Francis Xavier went to Goa, he knew that all the natives there needed Catholic faith and the baptism of water for salvation from Hell. All. He did not think there were any exceptions. How could he know of any any exceptions?. If someone is saved without the baptism of water it could only be known to God. The Bible, Tradition and the popes over the ages and now Vatican Council II tell us that the norm for salvation is the baptism of water ( CCC 1257). The Catechism of the Catholic Church says that the Church knows of no means of eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water.